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Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG)
Report from the IESG Teleconference
12 August 1993
Recorded by: John Stewart, IESG Secretary
This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat, which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.
ATTENDEES
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Bradner, Scott / Harvard
Chapin, Lyman / BBN
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Crocker, Dave / SGI
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Klensin, John / UNU
Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
Mankin, Allison / NRL
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Rose, Marshall / DBC
Stewart, John / CNRI
IAB Liaison
Christian Huitema / INRIA
Yakov Rekhter / IBM
Regrets
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
Minutes
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1. Administrative Issues
o Roll call
o Revisions to the agenda
The first hour was spent on the Protocol Actions, RFC
Editor Actions, and Waiting for Area Director Action sections.
The next hour will be spent on the Management Issues section,
including the IPng decision process.
o Erik Huizer will be on vacation from 15 August to 15 September
2. Protocol Actions
o The IESG approved moving "Interactive Mail Access Protocol,
Version 3" <rfc1203> to Historic.
o The IESG approved moving "The PPP Internetwork Packet Exchange
Control Protocol (IPXCP)" <draft-ietf-pppext-ipxcp-04.txt> to
Proposed Standard.
o The IESG approved moving the Dynamic Host Configuration
documents (<draft-ietf-dhc-between-bootp-03.txt,
draft-ietf-dhc-bootp-02.txt, draft-ietf-dhc-options-04.txt,
and draft-ietf-dhc-protocol-07.txt>) to Proposed Standard.
o The IESG approved moving "FDDI Management Information Base"
<draft-ietf-fddimib-objects-02.txt> to Proposed Standard.
5. Management Issues
o IPng
The standard operating procedure in the IETF is for working groups
to be managed primarily by the areas, with the IESG giving final
approval for submissions to the standards track. Traditionally,
areas and their directors have been created and torn down at the
IESG's convenience, and this is a strength.
It was decided that all of the IPng work should be aggregated.
The Chair was asked to formulate a plan.
ACTION (Gross): As IETF/IESG Chair, write up a proposal for the IPng
decision process and send it to the IESG mailing list by the morning
of 16 August.
o Time-stamping ACTION items
ACTION items on the IESG Agendas will now have reasonable
deadlines associated with them.
o IESG view on new document series for non-standards
Allison Mankin suggested that the Internet do what the ATM
Forum does and publish a book containing its standards. There
was mixed reaction within the IESG, but several people said
that it would be nice to have the RFCs handy without having to
have access to a workstation and a network.
ACTION (Mankin): Send a message to the ISOC Trustees by close of
business on Friday 13 August asking for their reaction to ISOC
publishing a book of its standards.
o Prototype status
There was a question as to whether Prototype was necessary or
not. Its proponents claim that (1) it is a necessary stage for
protocols which appear to be complete, but have not been tested
well enough to enter the standards track, and (2) the
connotations of the word "Prototype" might encourage vendors to
implement and test protocols more so than protocols with a status
of Experimental. In the past, the IAB used Prototype when a
working group wanted a document to be a Proposed Standard, but
the IAB didn't think the protocol was ready for the standards
track.
ACTION (D. Crocker): Send a message to the IESG proposing wording to
define Prototype status.
o IESG Policy on OSI-related work, and IESG response to OSIXTND
The IESG decided that the IESG/IETF Chair IETF should announce
the policy that the IESG agreed to, and that the Chair needs to
be aware of the possibility that some people might incorrectly
interpret this statement as coupling IPng and the liaison.
ACTION (Gross): As IESG/IETF Chair, send a draft of the announcement
for the IESG Policy on OSI-related Work to the IESG mailing list by
20 August.
6. RFC Editor Actions
o "Automating Administration in SNMPv2 Managers" as Informational
The IESG had no objections to publishing this document as an
Informational RFC.
7. Waiting for Area Director Action
o "DNS Resolver MIB" <draft-ietf-dns-resolver-mib-01.txt> and
"DNS Server MIB" <draft-ietf-dns-server-mib-01.txt> to Proposed
Marshall Rose reported that the Network Management Area
Directorate has seen these documents three times, and is
requesting more changes.
ACTION (Rose, D. Crocker): Take the discussion off-line and try to
fix the details.